Vista SP1 leaked. 3.62GB Vista News Discuss Vista SP1 leaked. 3.62GB in the Windows Vista forums; Right. We won't allow anyone to point to any illegal, pirated versions of anything. But some people do have things legitimately and there's nothing wrong with discussing things. ...

[dazzlin]

Right. We won't allow anyone to point to any illegal, pirated versions of anything. But some people do have things legitimately and there's nothing wrong with discussing things. So, carry on.

[felix8406]

One way to tell whether you ae running Vista SP1 is to look at the update history. My Vista SP1 Home Premium shows 12 updates, while my regular Home Primium desktop shows 74. So either those updates 74 updates were rolled into SP1 or are not longer needed.

However, there's the possibility that when a user choose to download the updates automatically during the setup process, those updates are rolled into the OS and not appear in the update history list...I'm not sure though.

[felix8406]

Is this a joke from MS?

I mentioned before about Vista SP1's new feature that allows users to Create a Recovery Disc. Well, here's what I found. I clicked the link from the Sart up menu and it went to the first step, which has the following message: "You can use a recovery disc to restore your computer using system recovery options if you do not have a Windows installation disc or cannot access recovery options provided by your computer manufacture. Select a drive, insert a blank CD or DVD, and then click Create disc." Well, so far, so good.

Next Step: "Insert Windows installation disc. To create a recovery disc, first insert the Windows installation disc into the selected drive, and then press Continue." (Do you start to see a pattern here?) Ayway, I went to the next step, without inserting the Vista DVD, and sure enough, it said that in order to continue it needs the Windows installation media.

If I had the "Windows installation" DVD, I wouldn't had a need for a Recovery Disc. Am I missing something here? Hopefully this won't be the case when the final version of SP1 is rolled out, but why include this feature in a Beta if users can't run a test?

[Snuffy]

You can burn the Installation Disk from the (uncompressed version) which is a bootable CLEAN Install Disk ... the recovery disk, will not be exactly the same. Recovery disk will also be bootable, but will have all the drivers currently installed on it, and will be an IMAGE of the current installation.
(In my opinion this is wasted time for the common user). the recovery disk would be very nice for OEM systems. This also makes the RECOVERY DISK
installable without the need to enter a KEY. (as I was told)..
I used Winrar to open/extract to HDD so as to be able to burn/read/review.

Such as my Acer came with 1. recovery HDD space -hidden and also 3 Clean install Disk(s). Seems the 3 CDs are cheaper to make and send than 1 DVD. or maybe its a nice way to get rid of old disks that clutter/take space and collect dust.

[felix8406]

Burning an Installation Disk only applies to the SP1 Beta beause it has been slipstreamed with Vista and available as an ISO. For current Vista users, SP1 will be available as an update, which would make the Recovery Disc feature useless if they are required to have a Windows installation DVD.

I'm sure that won't be the case once the final version of SP1 is released, but I would have like to test this feature without being asked for a Windows Installation DVD.

By the way, there has been numerous comments on the Internet about the performance of SP1. I'm testing it on a 5400 RPM HD, and the efficiency is very noticeable. The PC just run much faster, smoother and the HD is so much quiet. I was hoping to see an improvement to Ready Boost, perhaps being able to use more memory, but so far I haven't notice any changes.

[Snuffy]

Have you tried your original Vista DVD?

I'm sure that won't be the case once the final version of SP1 is released, but I would have like to test this feature without being asked for a Windows Installation DVD.

I'm running on SATA II drives. Quite yes, case fans also run smoother, quiter.
anyway that is what my wife says...

By the way, there has been numerous comments on the Internet about the performance of SP1. I'm testing it on a 5400 RPM HD, and the efficiency is very noticeable. The PC just run much faster, smoother and the HD is so much quiet. I was hoping to see an improvement to Ready Boost, perhaps being able to use more memory, but so far I haven't notice any changes.

Ready Boost does nothing great for me. I consider it a waste currently. Grossly unhappy with it.. have ran with a Super FAST USB permanently plugged into the back . later after about 1 month, I removed it, and actually never noticed any difference...
Memory is just plain xxxxx on Vista, limited to 3GB (32bit), and every test I have read about on adding more than 2GB, have been ZILCH. some HOG games will use more than 2GB and perform better. Have seen many many folks buy 4GB and have to remove 1 stick to get Vista to be stable...
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I will slipstream the official release onto my "official retail dvd" and also onto my "original Upgrade dvd".
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The Beta version of Vista SP1 - Slipstreamed I also have...
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My wish would be that MS waits until Vista SP1 is ready for release and that XP SP3 is ready before they release to the general public.

[felix8406]

Another thing I noticed is the availability of hardware drivers. Of all the 14 updates installed so far, 12 of them are for my motherboard. That's not to say that there might be newer drivers available, but it sure is great help for those who want things to work right the first time.

[Snuffy]

by James Brannan - Normally, service packs don’t include new features – Windows XP SP2 being the standout exception. By and large this seems to be true of Vista SP1, although there is a new maintenance application called “Create a Recovery Disc”. This isn’t the same thing as creating a backup of the system to DVD – instead this process creates a recovery DVD which you can use with system recovery options if you don’t have an original Windows DVD or you can’t access OEM recovery tools.

This is explained differently than what I was first told... Seems like Felix may have a noted problem. or BUG.
Felix, Have you submitted the BUG ?

[felix8406]

Yes, I did submitted a bug, but I doubt it's a bug though. My thinking is that since MS slipstreamed Vista and SP1 and provided it to tester as an ISO, users must first burn the DVD. So when creating a recovery disc, the requirement for a Windows Installation DVD makes sense for now until the final version rolls in.

[felix8406]

Originally Posted by Snuffy

Have you tried your original Vista DVD?Ready Boost does nothing great for me. I consider it a waste currently. Grossly unhappy with it.. have ran with a Super FAST USB permanently plugged into the back . later after about 1 month, I removed it, and actually never noticed any difference...

Readyboost work best with a ratio of 1:1 (Readyboost:Ram) or larger. For example, if you have 1GB of RAM, then a 512MB drive won't do much for your system because most memory swaping will take place between the RAM and the hard drive. But if you have 1GB of RAM and a 2GB USB drive as Readyboost, then there will be more activity within the USB drive and less from the hard drive.

Another thing is that Readyboost is not designed to take the place of RAM, but rather to cache ramdon disk reads, which is normally done by the HD. The USB drive allows access to this information much faster than from the HD. You’ll never see your system speed up dramatically when adding a USB drive as Readyboost as you would when adding RAM, but access to the cache files will be much faster than if it was done just through the hard drive.