Key-Logger Defeating Keyboards? Vista Tips Discuss Key-Logger Defeating Keyboards? in the Windows Vista forums; Hi Friends: On another post, I mentioned upgrading to the Logitech MX 3000 (laser) wireless keyboard/mouse combo. When making the switch over, honestly, I was not sure it would ...

[Znod]

Hi Friends:

On another post, I mentioned upgrading to the Logitech MX 3000 (laser) wireless keyboard/mouse combo. When making the switch over, honestly, I was not sure it would work well enough and would be an upgrade.

But, wow, it works terrifically and is the equivalent of any wired keyboard/mouse combo IMO. But, a really good thing, which has to do with Vista, is that the Logitech site has Vista-ready software for download.

Finally, I'm off to my main point. I did not know that such keyboards are available, but this one has a setting that is supposed to defeat key-logging malware. How effective is it? I don't know. But, such a keyboard might be a good thing to have given Vista (and XP) vulnerabilities.

[felix8406]

That's interesting, I wonder how it'll work? Will it prevent romote or software based key-logging recording? Did you have to install some type of program for that option to work?

[Znod]

I intalled the downloadable software. There are many, many settings that can be made--particularly those that are media related. While looking at the settings, I bumped into the anti-key-logger setting--which is enabled by default. At this point, you know all, and probably more, than I do because of your great beneath the surface inquisitiveness and knowledge. I am not even sure if wired keyboards/mice support this sort of function. My very fancy Gateway wired keyboard/mouse did not as far as I know. You know me; my thing is making superficial things work.

[felix8406]

Opps, sorry, felix. Not thinking moderator, I accidentally edited your post thinking I was replying to a quote. Please fix it back if you want, and say something consistent with what I say below. Again sorry. I will be more careful in the future.

[Znod]

Right, felix. But, to me, the issue is what happens if something gets through the standard protection--which in not all unlikely--especially when it comes to day-0 viruses and the like. I am glad that my keyboard protects against key loggers, at least to some extent, just in case.

Edit: felix please read your (not) post above.

[felix8406]

Originally Posted by Znod

Right, I know what key loggers do. Edit: felix please read your (not) post above.

I can't remember what I wrote, but key-logger software is a kind of spyware. But I'm not sure if an anti-virus, anti-spy or firewall can block it for sure. My impresion is that it will, but having an anti-key-logger will sure provide better protection as hackers are getting more sophistticated.

I know many people know what a key-logger is, but for those that don't know, a key-logger software is a spyware that records a user keyboard strokes. It's designed to view a PC user's nformation. Not all keyloggers or recorders are software based, as some keyloggers hardware can be attached between the PC and keyboard. Companies can easily place such a device to keep track of online activities.

[ultralexy]

That's amazing Z, I haven't heard of keyboards with anti-keylogger protection. Remarkable, indeed. I'm in love with my logitech MX revolution wireless laser mouse, so I can only imagine how swweeeet the combo must be. I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but did your gateway really come with a fancy keyboard/mouse or were you just being silly. My keyboard has a zone of keys that DO NOT work. really, they don't type out the letter unless i hit it really really hard. I'll have to get them to do something about it. Never had a prob with a keyboard before. Let us know more about your anti-keylogger keyboard.

[Znod]

Originally Posted by felix8406

I can't remember what I wrote, but key-logger software is a kind of spyware. But I'm not sure if an anti-virus, anti-spy or firewall can block it for sure. My impresion is that it will, but having an anti-key-logger will sure provide better protection as hackers are getting more sophistticated.

I don't think that a firewall will block a key logger provided that incoming is allowed from the site where the threat originates. I think that standard AV or malware protection would catch it if real-time scanning if enabled, of course, and if the virus or malware signature is known and, thus, included in the protection database. The problem arises when the signature is not yet known and, thus, the database is not able to identify the baddie.

There is one type of AV that I am aware of that can protect against even day-0 viruses, etc. It does so by "identifying unusual activity." The only such software that I am aware of is "Primary Response SafeConnect," by Sana Security. I am thinking of buying the basic version when it turns Vista ready because I like to fiddle with software. Galt tested it and found it to be pretty effective with relying on a database based on signatures.

[Znod]

Originally Posted by ultralexy

That's amazing Z, I haven't heard of keyboards with anti-keylogger protection. Remarkable, indeed. I'm in love with my logitech MX revolution wireless laser mouse, so I can only imagine how swweeeet the combo must be. I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but did your gateway really come with a fancy keyboard/mouse or were you just being silly. My keyboard has a zone of keys that DO NOT work. really, they don't type out the letter unless i hit it really really hard. I'll have to get them to do something about it. Never had a prob with a keyboard before. Let us know more about your anti-keylogger keyboard.

The combo, is indeed sweet. I am betting we have the same mouse--which has great ergonomics and provides alternative ways of doing things.

I had the option of ordering the Gateway Elite wired keyboard--which I liked very well. On my original, the space bar rattled a bit so I called and the replacement came very quickly given standard ground shipping. Gateway is serious about customer service. I will let you know what I learn about the keyboard.

The only problem is that learning to use a keyboard is low on my list of priorities--although I am interested in knowing more about the anti key-logger feature. The keyboard will do all sorts of things, with many related to media, but I'd rather do the the things using Vista since Vista is what I am interested in learning about.

[Znod]

Originally Posted by ultralexy

Let us know more about your anti-keylogger keyboard.

Here is what I think is going on:

Basic Info About the Keyboard/Mouse:

Logitech® Cordless Desktop® MX™ 3000 Laser
Laser navigation, expert media control.
Navigate with precision on virtually any surface using laser mouse; experience music, instant messaging, videos, photos with powerful keyboard controls at your fingertips.
Available in Charcoal.

Features: Audio Control • Cordless • Cruise Control™ buttons • Internet Forward/Back • Laser Technology • MediaLife™ Software • Multimedia Control • PC • PS/2 • Right-Handed Comfort Grip • Scroll wheel • Tilt Wheel Plus Zoom™ • USB • Zero Degree Tilt™

Control music or video playback, including playlist shuffle, right from your keyboard with the one-touch media buttons, or use the two-handed navigation controls to scroll and zoom spreadsheets, images and large documents.

Enjoy cordless freedom and laser performance. The Cordless Desktop® MX3000 Laser offers unmatched precision and comfort on surfaces where ordinary optical mice can't go. SecureConnect™ wireless technology and extended battery life add the finishing touches to a desktop that will make using your computer more personal and more exciting.

The Gist of the Key-Logger Protection (as best I can tell)

3. Security & privacy

Security and privacy Encrypted keystrokes for maximum security

All new Logitech cordless keyboards now include secure encryption that protects what you type. This is useful if you are working with private information or if you want complete peace-of-mind when using your cordless keyboard. Logitech is the only company making cordless keyboards that securely encrypt data using a secret key, to protect it even if it is intercepted using professional equipment.

How does it work?
You can easily switch the encryption mode on or off, using our keyboard feature control panel. During the process, you're asked to enter a given 16-digit key. Secured transmission is then turned on, even if your reboot or turn off your PC. The odd to have a similar key on any other system is similar to finding someone with your exact same DNA code - virtually nihil. We take your privacy seriously, so that you don't have to worry about it.

Once encryption enabled, the radio connection is still able to easily assimilate even the fastest typing pace. You will never overcome the capacities of the encrypted radio transmission.

* Secure encryption provides you with advanced privacy with no noticeable impact on performance
* It can easily be switched on or off at any time