Excited: Got Vista Firewall Outgoing Working Vista Security Discuss Excited: Got Vista Firewall Outgoing Working in the Windows Vista forums; http://www.all-internet-security.com..._software.html Free is not (IMHO) a 15 day trial... but it is worth reading......

[Snuffy]

http://www.all-internet-security.com..._software.html

Free is not (IMHO) a 15 day trial... but it is worth reading...

[Znod]

Right, the ones I am interested in on your link either are not Vista ready or are not free. I am waiting for Zone Alarm, a trial McAfee that I am sure is Vista ready, Comodo, and Lavasoft.

[Snuffy]

This is really the pits...... Outgoing firewall is CRAP you have to write a rule for everything.. yes everything then test it. It might block something you want to then you have to make an exception for that...
I'm tooooo old for this... tired

[Znod]

Yes, dealing without going is something of a mess. Here is the approach I am using with pretty good success so far. As, I recall, my approach is the "opposite" of yours.

1. Block all outgoing not allowed by a rule (mine or Vista's) with notification. I am yet to receive any "natural" notifications, although I can create the one snipped below.
2. Allow Firefox by rule.
3. Block LeakTest with specific rule. I could not prevent LeakTest from reaching the Web otherwise, and I received no notification it was attempting to do so.

[Snuffy]

Decided to take the plunge...stopped Vista Firewall, removed AVAST AV,
downloaded and installed Micro Trend Suite 2007...
1. tested the FW. passed every thing GRC could throw at me..100%
2. Downloaded and tested Leaktest.exe... said NO and it stopped Leaktest
again 100% fling colors...
3. went to Comodo site and Downloade there CPILsuite
had to click yes to all it to open...
opened and
passed test1 OK
passed test 2 OK
test 3 failed...
PS: Comodo is not Vista Compatible...

going for coffee and relax a bit.... any more tests you want me to run.
send info.. here or PM, I be more than glad to run... sure is easier than Vista FW..

I also have license for 3 computers, I will only use 1 license... willing to share
2 for purpose of testing... License ends 11/08/2007.

[Znod]

Thanks Snuff. Yes, I know about Comodo. Your are about where I am; passing leaktest 3 is hard. Also, try PCFlank (http://www.pcflank.com/pcflankleaktest.htm). I have not been able to stop this leaktest even though I have written a rule to block it--as I did for Leaktest.

[Znod]

What do you guys/gals think about the difficult to defeat leaktests that either require you to open IE or do it automatically? I am not quite sure they are playing fair--at least not the way LeakTest does. Are these things sales gimmicks? I find not that they are totally easy to defeat. I just move my IE folder into my Firefox folder.

Strangely, I could not use the firewall with advanced security to prevent IE from accessing the Web. What's really odd about that is that the rule for preventing such access is given as an example when writing outbound blocking rules. Go figure.

[Snuffy]

Confused that I made it so hard to do....
Found the dll or file which is causing the problem
sample: c:\C:\GRC\CPILSuite\CPILSuite\CPIL3.dll
right click to properties,
security, permissions, system and click DENY. apply then run the test again.
100% failure.. that is 100% to simple.

[Znod]

I denied the two exe's. But, did not try to deny the dlls. I was aware of them, but that seemed like cheating. Here is the problem I am having. The Comodo tests rely on running IE. So, just because we can stop the Comodo tests, specifically, I doubt that doing so would mean we could stop us from becoming bots (i.e., stop similar leaks). I think the same conclusion is likely to apply to "LeakTest."

I solved the IE problem. Please see above. I won't move it back until I need it. But, the call-homers that rely on IE are out of business on my system.

I just found this page: http://www.matousec.com/projects/win...-test-software.
It is hugely interesting me in the context of what I have said about IE and what Snuffy said about the Comodo .dll. It is interesting how many leaktesters can be defeated simply by hiding IE. Well, being a long-time Firefox guy .... I am off to check out those that attempt to use Firefox. In summary, the page says we are in deep do do.

[Snuffy]

Later I will test this DENY thru SYSTEM on the others. but at present
NO RULES are written, all removed.... all blocked on incoming, and ea problem area. I simply locate, RC, properties, advanced edit and say system "deny".