Recognize this Vista disk? Other Vista Discussions Discuss Recognize this Vista disk? in the Windows Vista forums; As posted in the other thread both you DVD units are Marginal at best.. http://www.vistababble.com/forums/in...html#post17475...

[Snuffy]

As posted in the other thread both you DVD units are Marginal at best..

http://www.vistababble.com/forums/in...html#post17475

[felix8406]

Originally Posted by Snuffy

my copy is Retail Upgrade.. so guys what is his copy? Crabby thinks it is a FREE Genuine Copy. I did also at first ... now I'm not sure..

Snuffy statement got me thinking. I too, like Crabby, felt the disk was genuine, but now I have my doubts as well. I'm sure most of us can remember when we began testing Vista and the problems many of us had after burning the ISO...the installation didn't go as plan because problems with the burned DVD. Well, I see similar problems in this case.

I'm not saying the DVD is not genuine, but that there are possibilities that it's not. There's also the possibility that whomever burned the DVD, did not follow all steps to ensure the best quality. However, these are just speculations...the DVD might be in fact genuine, but has a flaw, or the issue could be hardware related

[Snuffy]

Next it is a shame, also that since he purchased thru E-BAY, he does not have a "store" with which he can complain, and have them verify the Disk is GOOD or BAD. Might know of someone whom has a "compatible DVD Reader for x64 Vista" and see if it will install from there, also it is possible to "copy Legally" the DVD onto his HDD, and install from there (test it that way also). Legally you can BURN a Copy for your BACKUP {Purposes}. Recommend you use Poweriso and 1x speed or use a DVD-RW which is slow to start with (if it has been used). Burning the Disk should be with the very slowest possible speed or use the Verify after. I have burnt Vista with PowerISO and Nero 7, at slow speeds, and all have worked. 1. My Retail ISO was downloaded, and 2copies of Home Premium were Downloads... (actually the same DL only needed for 3 different computer).
So if the DVD copies to HDD and installs, that would mean the Device is faulty. and the Disk is GOOD. If during copy he gets a "cyclic redundancy error", that is a different story...

GreyNo3 - Keep us posted. plz.

[Snuffy]

KB928633
(Step 8 is REALLY GREAT) I have used this METHOD ... and MS explains it so much better than me.

General Info
RESOLUTION
To troubleshoot these issues, follow these steps: 1. Make sure that you have inserted the Windows Vista disc in the correct type of drive. CD media can be read by either a CD drive or a DVD drive. However, DVD media can only be read by a DVD drive. Make sure that you have not inserted a DVD in a CD drive. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 2.
2. Inspect the Windows Vista disc for physical damage, such as for scratches or for other visible defects. If the media is defective, obtain replacement media from the place of purchase or by contacting Microsoft. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 3.
3. Make sure that the CD or DVD drive is configured as a startup device in the BIOS. To configure the computer to start from the CD or DVD drive, view the documentation that is included with the computer, or contact the computer manufacturer. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 4.
4. Make sure that the Windows Vista disc is genuine. Genuine Windows Vista discs have a hologram printed on them that says “genuine media.” Obtain a genuine Windows Vista disc, and then try the installation again. If you have a genuine disc, go to step 5.
5. Insert a different startup disc in the CD or DVD drive, and then use that disc to start the computer. For example, try a Microsoft Windows XP CD, or try a disc that was provided by the computer manufacturer for reinstalling the operating system. If you can use a different disc to start the computer, the Windows Vista disc may be defective or damaged. If you cannot use a different disc to start the computer from the CD or DVD drive, go to step 6.
6. The CD or DVD drive may require a firmware update before the Windows Vista disc can be read correctly. Contact the manufacturer of the CD or DVD drive to obtain updates for the specific device model. If updates are available, download the update, and then upgrade the firmware on the CD or DVD drive. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 7.
7. If it is practical, try to install Windows Vista from a different CD or DVD drive. If the issue is not resolved, go to step 8.
8. Other media compatibility issues may prevent the computer from starting from the Windows Vista disc. If the disc can be accessed from an operating system that is already installed on the computer, copy the contents of the DVD or CD to a folder on the hard disk, and then try a flat installation.

Note A flat installation is a software installation that is performed from files that have been copied to a hard disk instead of from other installation media, such as a disc. You must have an additional 3 gigabytes (GB) of free disk space on the hard disk to install Windows Vista from a flat.

To install Windows Vista from a flat on the hard disk, follow these steps: a. Right -click Start, and then click Explore.
b. Locate and then click the CD or DVD drive that contains the Windows Vista disc.
c. On the Edit menu, click Select All.
d. On the Edit menu, click Copy.
e. On the hard disk, open the folder in which you want to create the flat.
f. On the File menu, point to New, and then click Folder.
g. Type Windows Vista Flat, and then press ENTER.
h. Double-click Windows Vista Flat, and then on the Edit menu, click Paste.
i. After the files are copied from the Windows Vista disc to the "Windows Vista Flat" folder, double-click Setup.exe.
j. Follow the steps in the Windows Setup Wizard to complete the installation.

For information about how to contact the manufacturer of the computer, click the appropriate article number in the following list to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
65416 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/65416/) Hardware and software vendor contact information, A-K

60781 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/60781/) Hardware and software vendor contact information, L-P

60782 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/60782/) Hardware and software vendor contact information, Q-Z
Microsoft provides third-party contact information to help you find technical support. This contact information may change without notice. Microsoft does not guarantee the accuracy of this third-party contact information.

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[felix8406]

He never got back to us; I think he went AWOL. He was able to install the 32Bit version, though he did a few issues. However, he had could not install the 64Bit version, which could be due to a driver's issue. I doubt the DVD was physically damage, he would have been able to notice it. I personally believe that the issue had to do with his DVD not being genuine and the burning didn't go as expected.

[Snuffy]

You might be correct.. If so then we told him exactly how to make a BETTER PIRATE Copy ... If not then maybe he will return some day.