clean install using upgrade version of vista Installing and Upgrading Vista Discuss clean install using upgrade version of vista in the Windows Vista forums; ust wondering what will be needed for this? 1. What will Vista check for? 2. Will it want a valid CD key for the previous OS? 3. Will it give ...

[ttremeth]

ust wondering what will be needed for this?

1. What will Vista check for?
2. Will it want a valid CD key for the previous OS?
3. Will it give you the option of installing the 64 bit version clean? (assuming u have a 64 bit cpu)

[felix8406]

ust wondering what will be needed for this?

1. What will Vista check for?

If you mean during installation, it verifies that your PC has what it takes to run Vista. It also ask, but you don't need to enter a product key. However, without a product key, your Vistas days are limited.

2. Will it want a valid CD key for the previous OS?

This is a good question which I don't have a specific answer for, but I don't believe so. Although it's been a while, when using and upgrade copy of Win XP to upgrade Win 98, during the upgrade process you were required to insert the Win 98 CD for verification purposes. Don't know if it will be same for Vista.

3. Will it give you the option of installing the 64 bit version clean? (assuming u have a 64 bit cpu)

Yes. As a matter of fact, a clean install of Vista 64 BIT version is your only choice. (see snip)

[ttremeth]

I found this post from a MS MVP, read and weep.

http://help.lockergnome.com/vista/Up...pict22187.html

[Znod]

Originally Posted by ttremeth

I found this post from a MS MVP, read and weep.

http://help.lockergnome.com/vista/Up...pict22187.html

An upgrade is never a clean install. If it was, then there would be no need to have upgrade versus full-version disks. And, there would be no reason to have upgrade versus clean install options. I am not sure what you point was, but it wasn't a good one. And, there never is a reason to be disrespectful--especially to one that is trying to help you.

[felix8406]

I think what they are referring to as a clean install upgrade is obtaining and upgrade license of Vista and installing it on a clean hard drive. In reality one is not really upgrading Vista, but it's using a less expensive upgrade copy. Even though is a clean install, during installation you'll need to insert the WinXP CD so that Vista can verify that one is in fact upgrading a product.

[crabby]

Jeff Gains on that forum is wrong. Our Felix is right! In fact, if you read on you will find others stating the correct method behind using upgrade DVDs. With a blank hard drive and an upgrade version of Vista, all you need is an XP disk and you can install Vista. You wont need to install XP first.

The issue they were talking about is an old one, Microsoft updated their policy inline with XPs as it was seen as unfair by many.

Znod, I don't think ttremeth was being disrespectful, but actually uses English as his 2nd language.

crabby

[Znod]

Originally Posted by felix8406

I think what they are referring to as a clean install upgrade is obtaining and upgrade license of Vista and installing it on a clean hard drive. In reality one is not really upgrading Vista, but it's using a less expensive upgrade copy. Even though is a clean install, during installation you'll need to insert the WinXP CD so that Vista can verify that one is in fact upgrading a product.

I see what you mean. Yes, they probably are referring to a clean-install upgrade. I was thinking of the Express Upgrade Program. Does it work the same way? That is, under that program, can you do a clean-install upgrade? I just didn't like the "read and weep" relpy as though you were wrong in what you said.

[Snuffy]

http://www.vistababble.com/forums/in...840-v6000.html

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I'm not sure I explained it correctly..but the experience was (IMHO) almost like upgrading from XP to XP. only Vista ask for the OLD KEY and then the NEW KEY.. w/o the 2n New Key. It did offer me the option "Buy a New Key".
but after 3 attempts it allowed me to finish the install and booted with 3 days left to activate. ..I then had to change KEY to the an exceptable KEY
via "Welcome Center" which then gave me a Full working Version. (Sorry for not being able to explain better)..Snuffy the Ol Pirate

[felix8406]

According to a computer manufacture sales-rep that I talked to, you will have to do an upgrade from your current system to Windows Vista. Supposedly a pre-requisite to the Express Upgrade Program is to have XP installed.

As for the "read and weep" reply I usually don't take it personally because of the possibilities of misinterpretation. When I first saw that I thought that Ttemeth was commenting about the upgrade process itself. In other words, the comments about the Express Upgrade Program were disappointing, so we would read and weep about them.

[Znod]

Yes, that is what I thought about the Express Upgrade Program. I wonder why those of us participating in it can't have the same right to a clean-install upgrade. That is, I wonder what the point of distingquishing between the two classes of XP owners is--assuming that the individual has a disk.